Posts by Ultimate Axiom

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Yet another example why you can't reason with a JW

by nowwhat? in

so i mentioned to my pimi brother that the org.

only grew by 1.4 % 2 years in row and if you factor in the birthrate of 1.1 % that's only 3/10 of 1% growth for all that hard work.

i thought people would be streaming to the mountain of jehovah in the last days?

Ultimate Axiom

Thanks recluse - took me a while, but I managed to figure out the last one all by myself.

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Yet another example why you can't reason with a JW

by nowwhat? in

so i mentioned to my pimi brother that the org.

only grew by 1.4 % 2 years in row and if you factor in the birthrate of 1.1 % that's only 3/10 of 1% growth for all that hard work.

i thought people would be streaming to the mountain of jehovah in the last days?

This might sound strange, but I've not come across the acronym PIMI before. After a quick search on this site I’m none the wiser, except that I came across POMO, which I have also not heard of. Can someone please tell me what they mean?

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2018 Service Year Report - Released on jw.org

by Drearyweather in

2018 service year report of jehovah’s witnesses worldwide.

see details of the global preaching work of jehovah’s witnesses from september 2017 to august 2018.. https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/2018-service-year-report/.

average publishers preaching each month: 8,360,594 (2017 - 8,248,982).

Ultimate Axiom

Up until the 1935 teaching was changed, that number was going down. Thereafter, it never stopped going up.

Not quite true. From 1953-1969 the number continued to go down every year, halving from 19,183 to 10,360. From 1971-2005 it went down more times than it went up, starting at 10,526 and ending at 8,524. Since then however, it has gone up every year, and at an alarming rate for the GB, more than doubling, now standing at its highest level since they started publishing the figures.

I may be wrong but I think that’s the first time ever that the number of congregations has gone down.
You are not wrong - it's the first decrease since they started publishing the fingures in the Yearbooks.

have they really published the average figure this year
Yes, and they published it last year as well, but in the summary, not the tables.

(say from 65 years of age and older) are highly useless due to their age
Hey man, steady on. I'm 65, and I might be useless, but not "highly" useless!

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Any Good 1975 Stories?

by Think About It in

jw
friends

despite denial by the wts of any 1975 armageddon predictions zealous jw's did believe it, openly talked about it, and some even sold houses & belongings in anticipation of it.

do you have or know of any good 1975 stories?.

here's mine.........i was a freshman in college and had quit attending the kh back in hs.

Ultimate Axiom

For those who still argue that the Watchtower did not specifically state that 1975 would see Armageddon, consider what they did say;

1. The 1000 year reign of Christ would start within a few years of 1968.

2. Armageddon would come before the 1000 year reign of Christ starts.

3. The 1000 year reign of Christ would end before the end of God’s 7th creative Day.

4. God’s creative Day is 7000 years long.

5. God’s 7th Day started a few weeks or months after Adam was created.

6. Adam was created in 4026 BCE.

So while it is true that the Watchtower did not use the words, “Armageddon will come by 1975”, these six statements are saying precisely that.

For reference see, Watchtower, May 1, 1968, page 272, par 7, and Watchtower, August 15, 1968, page 499, par 30.

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Crazy WT stories

by scruffmcbuff in

dennis was offered £5 by cool kids smoking pot and fornicating.

he turned it down and went to read the wt as he turned the page.

what did he see?a £5 note.

Ultimate Axiom

Check out this thread, there's quite a lot of crazy stuff here.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/186552/list-prominent-jw-urban-legends

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Any Good 1975 Stories?

by Think About It in

jw
friends

despite denial by the wts of any 1975 armageddon predictions zealous jw's did believe it, openly talked about it, and some even sold houses & belongings in anticipation of it.

do you have or know of any good 1975 stories?.

here's mine.........i was a freshman in college and had quit attending the kh back in hs.

Ultimate Axiom

Bungi Bill – I certainly can’t deny I fell for it. I was only 16 in 1969 when I swallowed this rubbish and quit school to pioneer. In 1970 I wanted contact lenses, and the optician told me that they will generally last for five years before they will need replacing. I made myself look stupid by telling her that that’s all the time I will need them for.

As the actual year approached however, I, along with most others in our congregation, were not so sure. It all hinged on the length of time from Adam’s creation to the end of the sixth day. We weren’t so sure it was only months, as Freddie claimed, so our certainty was nothing like it was five years earlier.

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What JW Beliefs Did You Find Difficult To Explain?

by minimus in

jw
friends

there are a lot.

anything blood related was difficult to reasonably prove from a witness perspective.. 1914 was another one.

what can you add to the list?

Ultimate Axiom

That all good things done by other religions (like the Salvation Army) were in fact acts carried out by agents of the devil.

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Shocking Example of JW Elder Corruption

by Roger Kirkpatrick in

let's play a game of believe it or not, shall we?

i'll relate a story, and you decide whether you believe it or not.

what would you think of an elder who told his daughter's fiance that he would kill him if he ever did anything to hurt his daughter?

Ultimate Axiom

Slimboyfat – quite agree, I don’t see this as particularly shocking, but it does highlight the level of hypocrisy among JWs, who talk endlessly about a “clean congregation” free form such disgusting things as pre-marital sex. Mind you, I would be willing to bet that had this couple been engaged in browsing apostate web sites and said that as a result they no longer believed the GB were the FDS, they would both have suffered a lot more than a public reproof.

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"Jehovah will satisfy all our desires in the new system!" Are you sure about that?

by nowwhat? in

bill ,a non witness is killed driving home after work, providing for his family.

he left behind his wife and 3 kids all under 8 years of age.

armageddon comes the very next month.

Ultimate Axiom

This story reminds me of what a "brother" once said to me about my non-believing father back in the early 70s. "He'd be better off dying soon" he said, "then he might be resurrected because he’s got no chance surviving Armageddon". I was new back then, but I still found it odd that a person’s everlasting destiny would be determined by chance, or that I should wish my father dead by 1975. No, nowwhat? it makes absolutely no sense at all. But when you get down to it, very little JW stuff actually does.

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Jehovah’s witnesses and having kids

by Addison0998 in

in my area, a lot of young people don’t want to have kids.

they get married young from 18-22 years old, and think that they know how they’re going to feel the rest of their lives about having children, (which they think will be never).

i respect people who don’t want to have kids, there are good reasons not to, but i think it’s foolish at a young age to think you will never think differently for the rest of your life.

Ultimate Axiom

Of course, this attitude is not new, it goes way back to Rutherford’s crazy ideas. When my wife became pregnant in 1974, she was actually told by a 60 odd year old sister that it was a wicked thing to bring a child into the world at this time. My wife was 27 at the time and was deeply hurt by this, particularly as this sister had already had her children, who were now in their 20s and 30s. I feel very sorry for all those who have put their faith in the Watchtower prophecies and gone through life childless because of it.